Post by matt1987 on Mar 20, 2019 20:21:22 GMT
So it strikes me that not many people use this technique, so imagine this for a second.... you are running a training session and simulating a casualty trapped by the legs by the dash.
You stabilise, manage glass/ plastics, remove doors, cut posts, remove roofs then set up rams... maybe you cut the front of the vehicle near the suspension.. maybe you don’t? Who cares really?
We talk about A and B plans, quick extrication plans and gold standard plans.... what ever term you put to it is irrelevant really what’s important is that if the s**t hits the fan (so to speak) you can remove a casualty.
With this in mind I offer to you the thought that we are planning to do things backwards, we are planning our extrication back to front.... really we only have an A plan... see my point? Would you do this on the road side? You may well do... but ask yourself is it the right thing to do? What would you do if the casualty went critical whilst in the vehicle physically trapped?
I’ve heard the term DANGER ZONE referred to a few times, what that means is that the casualty is trapped but may well be critical. Every reference to this says to create some kind of plan for rapid extrication... but we don’t with the most common type of impingement? Certainly don’t train for it!
To me the most likely reason we don’t do that is this... when we train we train with uncrashed cars. Unlike most operations we train for, having uncrashed cars actually makes ramming more complicated. It’s because we aren’t moving the dash back to normal place we are trying to hyperextend the metal.
If this is the case or not, surely we must practice this? Practice reforming a cab as part of a preliminary extrication plan.... no roof removal, no stripping everything off just door off and ram in. Or a lift.... the principal is the same. Get used to creating the space, sizing up if you need to remove both doors (I tend to) or just one.
For training I have been really fortunate, I created a link with a recycling plant, we get our storesman to deliver a car there, we meet with them and they will crush down the car until we say to stop.... this enables my crew to work in wrecked cabs, to ram a crushed cab back to normal, force jammed doors. It’s well worth examining.
Anyway ramble over. I hope atleast someone finds it useful.
You stabilise, manage glass/ plastics, remove doors, cut posts, remove roofs then set up rams... maybe you cut the front of the vehicle near the suspension.. maybe you don’t? Who cares really?
We talk about A and B plans, quick extrication plans and gold standard plans.... what ever term you put to it is irrelevant really what’s important is that if the s**t hits the fan (so to speak) you can remove a casualty.
With this in mind I offer to you the thought that we are planning to do things backwards, we are planning our extrication back to front.... really we only have an A plan... see my point? Would you do this on the road side? You may well do... but ask yourself is it the right thing to do? What would you do if the casualty went critical whilst in the vehicle physically trapped?
I’ve heard the term DANGER ZONE referred to a few times, what that means is that the casualty is trapped but may well be critical. Every reference to this says to create some kind of plan for rapid extrication... but we don’t with the most common type of impingement? Certainly don’t train for it!
To me the most likely reason we don’t do that is this... when we train we train with uncrashed cars. Unlike most operations we train for, having uncrashed cars actually makes ramming more complicated. It’s because we aren’t moving the dash back to normal place we are trying to hyperextend the metal.
If this is the case or not, surely we must practice this? Practice reforming a cab as part of a preliminary extrication plan.... no roof removal, no stripping everything off just door off and ram in. Or a lift.... the principal is the same. Get used to creating the space, sizing up if you need to remove both doors (I tend to) or just one.
For training I have been really fortunate, I created a link with a recycling plant, we get our storesman to deliver a car there, we meet with them and they will crush down the car until we say to stop.... this enables my crew to work in wrecked cabs, to ram a crushed cab back to normal, force jammed doors. It’s well worth examining.
Anyway ramble over. I hope atleast someone finds it useful.
